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		<title>By: Tacnet</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>Tacnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-- We should be more concerned about Global Warming and Climate Change because Typhoons are getting much stronger and there are greater incidence of Flooding. take for example the recent Typhoon Ketsana which devastated some countries in South East Asia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211; We should be more concerned about Global Warming and Climate Change because Typhoons are getting much stronger and there are greater incidence of Flooding. take for example the recent Typhoon Ketsana which devastated some countries in South East Asia.</p>
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		<title>By: Bodydetoxguy</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>Bodydetoxguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the effect of Global Warming these days is even worst. i think every government should pass stricter laws on Carbon Emissions. we should also concentrate more on renewable energy sources and avoid fossil fuels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the effect of Global Warming these days is even worst. i think every government should pass stricter laws on Carbon Emissions. we should also concentrate more on renewable energy sources and avoid fossil fuels.</p>
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		<title>By: global warming</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>global warming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>global warming is becoming such a obvious problem that someone somewhere other than Al Gore needs to step up to help drive the bus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>global warming is becoming such a obvious problem that someone somewhere other than Al Gore needs to step up to help drive the bus!</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon, that article was not supposed to back up any of my statements or to give support to my opinion. I just wanted Mosley to take a look at it and see what he thought off-air/not on here. 

Brian, I don&#039;t think all environmentalists are trying to stop capitalism. They&#039;re just trying to eliminate some of the necessary pollution we incur living in a industrialist society. If anything, they are attacking heavy industrialism and not capitalism. I don&#039;t believe these two terms are synonymous to each other.

I think solar and wind power can be effective and that alternative options do need to be explored, that way we can still produce the goods needed and eliminate some of the unnecessary pollution. Besides, the companies that can&#039;t afford to become environmentally friendly will move East anyways and the companies that can still afford to stay here will. That&#039;s just a part of the unfairness of capitalism. 

Our country is continually shifting into an intellectual one. It&#039;s time we start thinking about the consequences of our last evolution from an agrarian society to an industrial one and react without only being concerned about where our money is going and instead, be concerned about our health; which should be worth more than the money we make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon, that article was not supposed to back up any of my statements or to give support to my opinion. I just wanted Mosley to take a look at it and see what he thought off-air/not on here. </p>
<p>Brian, I don&#8217;t think all environmentalists are trying to stop capitalism. They&#8217;re just trying to eliminate some of the necessary pollution we incur living in a industrialist society. If anything, they are attacking heavy industrialism and not capitalism. I don&#8217;t believe these two terms are synonymous to each other.</p>
<p>I think solar and wind power can be effective and that alternative options do need to be explored, that way we can still produce the goods needed and eliminate some of the unnecessary pollution. Besides, the companies that can&#8217;t afford to become environmentally friendly will move East anyways and the companies that can still afford to stay here will. That&#8217;s just a part of the unfairness of capitalism. </p>
<p>Our country is continually shifting into an intellectual one. It&#8217;s time we start thinking about the consequences of our last evolution from an agrarian society to an industrial one and react without only being concerned about where our money is going and instead, be concerned about our health; which should be worth more than the money we make.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Yoder</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Yoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one more point that is perhaps the most important but not listed in the notes/talk.  That is &quot;If something ought to be done then what is it?&quot;  The environmentalists have created a huge package deal which is that capitalism is to blame for global warming and that the elimination of capitalism is the only way to do something about it.  Consider for a moment what the environmentalists want to do and what they don&#039;t want to do.  Would nuclear power help?  Of course it would, but nuclear power is a (mostly) capitalist enterprise.  Do they favor solar power?  Of course, but alas, it can&#039;t provide for our needs.  That&#039;s why they like it so much after all.  What do they think about scientific ways of addressing the problem like seeding the oceans with iron in the southern latitudes to generate the uptake of CO2 from the atmosphere or coating vast areas with light colored materials that would reflect more heat?  They are utterly uninterested in these because they aren&#039;t interested in solving the problem (if it exists at all).  They are interested in shutting down modern society and capitalism.  Note that back in the 70&#039;s when they wanted to warm the world up their solution was to demolish capitalism too.

As I see it, I would rather put up with some flooding of low areas than give up capitalism.  Wouldn&#039;t you?

--Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one more point that is perhaps the most important but not listed in the notes/talk.  That is &#8220;If something ought to be done then what is it?&#8221;  The environmentalists have created a huge package deal which is that capitalism is to blame for global warming and that the elimination of capitalism is the only way to do something about it.  Consider for a moment what the environmentalists want to do and what they don&#8217;t want to do.  Would nuclear power help?  Of course it would, but nuclear power is a (mostly) capitalist enterprise.  Do they favor solar power?  Of course, but alas, it can&#8217;t provide for our needs.  That&#8217;s why they like it so much after all.  What do they think about scientific ways of addressing the problem like seeding the oceans with iron in the southern latitudes to generate the uptake of CO2 from the atmosphere or coating vast areas with light colored materials that would reflect more heat?  They are utterly uninterested in these because they aren&#8217;t interested in solving the problem (if it exists at all).  They are interested in shutting down modern society and capitalism.  Note that back in the 70&#8217;s when they wanted to warm the world up their solution was to demolish capitalism too.</p>
<p>As I see it, I would rather put up with some flooding of low areas than give up capitalism.  Wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>&#8211;Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that a local gazette article is the best source for scientific information. The article, however, noted the Northeast Climate Impacts Assessment as its source, so I looked it up. The assessment starts with the premise that man is the cause of global warming, a hypothesis it doesn&#039;t validate. It only says that what has happened so far is consistent with some models. However, the models that I&#039;m aware of do not remain consistent with history, which demonstrates their unreliability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that a local gazette article is the best source for scientific information. The article, however, noted the Northeast Climate Impacts Assessment as its source, so I looked it up. The assessment starts with the premise that man is the cause of global warming, a hypothesis it doesn&#8217;t validate. It only says that what has happened so far is consistent with some models. However, the models that I&#8217;m aware of do not remain consistent with history, which demonstrates their unreliability.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mosley I&#039;d like if you read this: http://post-gazette.com/pg/07193/801165-113.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mosley I&#8217;d like if you read this: <a href="http://post-gazette.com/pg/07193/801165-113.stm" rel="nofollow">http://post-gazette.com/pg/07193/801165-113.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so why does it matter whether it&#039;s global warming or not that is our incentive to stop polluting the Earth so heavily? I don&#039;t think you should be arguing something that may or may not exist or may or may not have any consequences and I don&#039;t think lawmakers should be purely focusing on using this term. What happened to just saving the environment in general? Why do we need to give it a name, whether it&#039;s accurate or not, when it&#039;s really just our refusal to give up our comfortable lifestyles in order to save future generations?

This is probably not making much sense, since as I said previously, nothing ever comes across right on the internet and I just worked all day. I&#039;m sure none of you are trying to sound arrogant, but you are collectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so why does it matter whether it&#8217;s global warming or not that is our incentive to stop polluting the Earth so heavily? I don&#8217;t think you should be arguing something that may or may not exist or may or may not have any consequences and I don&#8217;t think lawmakers should be purely focusing on using this term. What happened to just saving the environment in general? Why do we need to give it a name, whether it&#8217;s accurate or not, when it&#8217;s really just our refusal to give up our comfortable lifestyles in order to save future generations?</p>
<p>This is probably not making much sense, since as I said previously, nothing ever comes across right on the internet and I just worked all day. I&#8217;m sure none of you are trying to sound arrogant, but you are collectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Emily,

I haven&#039;t heard that ozone depletion is a cause of global warming. Where did you get that information?

Anyway, no one really denies that global-warming has occurred. The debate is whether the warming will continue, what is causing it, and what we should do about it.

Regarding recycling, I don&#039;t think that prevents air pollution because the materials have to be transported by polluting vehicles and then sent to a polluting factory where they can be &quot;renewed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Emily,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t heard that ozone depletion is a cause of global warming. Where did you get that information?</p>
<p>Anyway, no one really denies that global-warming has occurred. The debate is whether the warming will continue, what is causing it, and what we should do about it.</p>
<p>Regarding recycling, I don&#8217;t think that prevents air pollution because the materials have to be transported by polluting vehicles and then sent to a polluting factory where they can be &#8220;renewed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://talkobjectivism.com/global-warming-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no expert on this topic (this particular area of science bores me), but I do know that ozone depletion and global warming are separate issues.  Ozone depletion concerns the thinning of a particular layer in the stratosphere.  This will increase  the amount of radiation that is able to reach the Earth.  Global warming involves the gradual increase in average temperature on Earth which will lead to climate change.   

These issues are certainly related as environmental issues, but the causes and consequences for each are different.  In fact, some of the steps taken to reduce ozone depletion actually are thought to have contributed to global warming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no expert on this topic (this particular area of science bores me), but I do know that ozone depletion and global warming are separate issues.  Ozone depletion concerns the thinning of a particular layer in the stratosphere.  This will increase  the amount of radiation that is able to reach the Earth.  Global warming involves the gradual increase in average temperature on Earth which will lead to climate change.   </p>
<p>These issues are certainly related as environmental issues, but the causes and consequences for each are different.  In fact, some of the steps taken to reduce ozone depletion actually are thought to have contributed to global warming!</p>
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